Unofficial |
In order to get a custom serial number for an L.W. Seecamp pistol the number must be “available,” i.e. It must be a serial number not yet used on any other LWS pistol (NOTE: a few of the early LWS.25 and LWS.32 pistols did have matching numbers and are highly sought-after collectables). The custom serial number can be up to eight. The serial number range began where the Mauser / pistol left off. Limited to pistols, with fewer than that number imported into U.S. Importer, “Dalvar of USA” is This 6-shot pistol has a ” barrel and is very similar in size to the Walther PPK. Serial number and date of manufacture on right side. The LWS-32 remains Seecamp's most popular firearm. During the height of demand, production guns were selling out years in advance with individual guns selling for up to US$1000. There were 20 sets made in both.25 ACP and.32 ACP with matching serial numbers in 1988. In 1999 Seecamp introduced a third model, the LWS-380 chambered in.380 ACP.
- I really liked the old Seecamp pistols but the 32 caliber left a cold, empty feeling in my self protection mode. That made the Seecamp lose the comparison test for me. Whether you agree or not, the Ruger LCP and Keltec P3AT have several advantages over the Seecamp. The Ruger and KelTec pistols both use the more powerful.380 ammunition, a BIG plus!
- The LWS-32 remains Seecamp's most popular firearm. During the height of demand, production guns were selling out years in advance with individual guns selling for up to US$1000. There were 20 sets made in both.25 ACP and.32 ACP with matching serial numbers in 1988. In 1999 Seecamp introduced a third model, the LWS-380 chambered in.380 ACP.
Detonics Model Chart
Name | Notes | |
Matte blue | ||
Combat Master MkII | Essex frame | |
Hard chrome | ||
Combat Master MC1 | Matte blue slide, matte stainless frame | Transitional to Caspian frames |
Combat Master MkIV | Caspian stainless frame | |
Brushed/matte stainless | ||
Combat Master MkVI | Later models had three recoil springs. Caspian stainless frame | |
Flattop stainless, with no sights | Rounded edges,additional removal of slide material. Small run of 50 made for CIA which also featured magnaporting. Caspian stainless frame |
Model names and the Specifications for models other than Combat Master
Calibers | Years of Manufacture | |
Military Combat MC2 | Dull, non-glare combat finish and fixed sights. Came with a camouflaged pile-lined wallet(rug), and Pachmayr grips. | Discontinued in 1984 |
O.S. Model | Emergency backup pistol similar to the Combatmaster, 6 shot mag., choice of stain stainless, or all black finish | 2 manufactured, 1991 only |
Scoremaster | Match Pistol with extremely close tolerances, 5 or 6 inch barrel Millett Adjustable Sights, and Grip Safety, 7 or 8 shot magazine, weighed 42 ounces | |
Compmaster | Similar to the Scoremaster, except it is fully compensated. | 1988-1992 |
Competition Master T.F. | Competition model with dual port compensator, rotational torque compensating vents, patented coned barrel system, hand tuned trigger, and they included all competition modifications. | Discontinued in 1992 |
Servicemaster | Shortened version of the Scoremasters, with a non-glare combat finish, 4.25 inch barrel, coned barrel system, 8 shot magazine, and interchangeable front and rear adjustable sights. Weighed 39. ounces, | Discontinued in 1986 |
Servicemaster II | Same as the Servicemaster except offered in a Polished Stainless Steel finish. | Manufactured from 1986-1992 |
Royal Escort | Action similar to the Combat Master, 3.5 inch barrel, 6 shot magazine, black frame, slide and grips are iridescent purple, hammer and Trigger are 24 Karat Gold Plated. | Less than 25 were manufactured, 1990-92 |
Midnight Escort | Similar to the Royal escort, except Stainless, with a black slide, and smooth black grips(onyx). | Less than 30 were manufactured. 1990-92 |
Jade Escort | Similar to the Midnight Escort, except has Stainless Frame, Jade Colored Slide and Real Jade Grips. | Less than 10 were manufactured. 1990-92 |
Seecamp Serial Number Chart Free
Pocket 9 Series
Calibers | Years of Manufacture | |
Pocket 9 | Double action, 3 inch barrel, 6 shot magazine, soft matte sheen finish | 1985-1986 |
Pocket 9LS | Similar to the Pocket 9, with a 4 inch barrel, again Limited production | 1986 |
Pocket .380 | Similar to the Pocket 9, 23 ounces | 1986 |
Power 9 | Similar to the pocket 9 except has polished slide sides, and came with 2 magazines. | 1985-1986 |
The Pocket 9 Series were produced from 1985 thru 1986 only and discontinued due to lack of demand. Special thanks to Mick at MRM for supplying the above information.
Production Numbers from 1984-1987
Year | .380 | 9mm | .45 | Total |
1984 | 0 | 2,742 | 951 | 3,693 |
1985 | 110 | 1,546 | 1,292 | 2,948 |
1986 | 85 | 218 | 563 | 866 |
1987 | 4 | 2 | 281 | 287 |
Misc Notes and History
Seecamp Magazine Extension
The first patents for Detonics Inc. reflect a filing date of June 3, 1976 and were submitted by Patrick Yates, Sidney Woodcock, and Jeffrey Bealls.
Production numbers were 26,000 units between the Detonics and New Detonics Inc. Courtesy Mick@MRM
1045 investors were brought into the company to form the New Detonics corporation, which was relocated to Phoenix, AZ. This effort was spearheaded by Robby Barkum, who is known for his Robar finish. Courtesy Calus
Seecamp Serial Number Lookup
The New Detonics Corporation, ceased operating in the spring of 1992 and all assets were sold at auction in Phoenix, AZ.
At one time an Ex-Detonics employee stole a Detonics imprinting plate and stamped out some fake Detoincs pistols using ODI/Viking frames. Courtesy Tony Rumore
At one time they ran out of Detonics shipping boxes so they took the .451 Conversion kits out of their own boxes and shipped complete pistols in them. The '1' on the boxes was carefully painted out as well as the 'Conversion' part. Courtesy Tony Rumore
At one point they made up a pile of 9mm Combatmasters but they did not sell well, so after collecting dust for several years, they yanked the top ends off of them and converted them back to 45's. Courtesy Tony Rumore
A little known movie fact from Terminator II - Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) used a modified Detonics in the scene directly after she emptied her M16 into Miles Dyson's (Joe Morton) house. The gun was a Scoremaster frame with a Combatmaster slide and a comp'd barrel to make it look like a longslide. A former Detonics employee confirmed that the pistol was built years earlier but to everbody's knowledge was never used in a movie until years later when it came out in T2. Courtesy Tony Rumore
Links
Syd's The Sight 1911 Page
Detonics.com
Last Modified on October, 2015
aalbert@biggerhammer.net
Colt Carbine | ||
Competition HBAR | ||
Government Carbine | ||
Governmodel Model Service | ||
Match HBAR | ||
Match Lightweight | ||
Match Target | ||
Sporter | ||
Sporter Target | ||
9mm |
Above Information Courtesy Stokes
Disclaimer: This list is correct to the best of my knowledge, however, I accept absolutely no responsibility for the accuracy of this information or for the consequences and/or damages occurring from any inaccuracies. I have compiled this list for the purposes of sharing information only. This is not intended to be used in any way except for personal entertainment. It is a compilation of both personal information and information submitted from others, mostly from the Internet. ALL SERIAL NUMBERS SHOULD BE VERIFIED FROM THE MANUFACTURER PRIOR TO ANY PURCHASE OR ASSEMBLY. It should be clearly noted that it is a felony to possess a Post-Ban (newly assembled after Sept 13, 1994) assault weapon. Please note that BATF has ruled that 'Pre-ban' and 'Grandfathered' are two different things. A Pre-ban lower is only grandfathered if it: 1. was a complete rifle prior to 9/13/94; 2. possessed two banned features (pistol grip and CAR stock assembled); or 3. was part of a complete weapon kit, either assembled or not. This list does not discern between 'Pre-ban' and 'Grandfathered' as it is very nearly impossible to find that detail of information. If any information presented here is found to be incorrect or you have additional information to contribute, please contact me via E-Mail (hkusp40@midmaine.com) and I will update and re-issue the list. Note:All items marked with a single asterisk (*) are taken from http://home1.gte.net/bblakley/ban/index.htm. The year/serial numbers under Colt SP series was forwarded to me by an individual whose return address I no longer have. Double asterisk (**) under Bushmaster, a person on the internet e-mailed me that he had a lower that was shipped stripped (thus not a complete rifle) in 1991 from Bushmaster with serial #0327XX - ALWAYS CALL TO VERIFY. Finally, BATF has allowed some pre-ban damaged to be replaced with post-ban lowers with numbers outside the ranges given below while retaining the grandfathered status. They will send a letter documenting this and allowing the original manufacturer to proceed with the replacement. Colt (800) 962-COLT |
1963 | SP00001-SP00023** | ||
1964 | SP00101 | ||
1965 | SP02501 | ||
1966 | SP05600 | ||
1967 | SP08250 | ||
1968 | SP10750 | ||
1969 | SP14000-SP14653 | ||
1970 | SP15001-SP15473 | ||
1971 | SP16001 | ||
1972 | SP19401 | ||
1973 | SP24201 | ||
1974 | SP32601 | ||
1975 | SP43801 | ||
1976 | SP55301 | ||
1977 | SP67651 | ||
1978 | SP83400 | ||
CC001616 and Below | |||
CH019500 and Below | |||
GC018500 and Below | |||
LH011326 and Below | |||
MH086020 and Below | |||
NL004800 and Below | |||
SL027246 and Below | |||
SP360200 and Below | |||
ST038100 and Below | |||
TA10100 and Below | |||
BD000134 and Below(AR-15A3 Tactical Carbine - very rare model) | |||
MT00001 and Above | |||
BK000001and Above (CAR-A3) | |||
CST000001 and Above (Began Late 1997 Production) | |||
CMH000001 and Above | |||
CCH010000 and Above - Post Ban MT6700, MT6700C and MT6700CH series, 1998 production |
Serial Number Information Courtesy Geremy Chubbuck